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Crew Outside the Cockpit for Frostbites
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Michel,

Thank you!  These look good to me.

Hope to see many boats out on Sunday.

Keith 



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Posted by: Michel Jichlinski on 10/29/2020 at 1:48 PM
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Please everyone have a look at the revised SIs that I just posted.

It turns out I will be helping a first time racer so I will see you there.

Michel


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Due to the current health pandemic, I am ok with crew outside of the cockpit with PFDS, not standing except for fixing something quickly, and not standing to hold the boom of the main sail.

We utilize a boom preventor that helps secure our boom and we use the jacklines when conditions warrant crew move about in heavy weather and dark.


Cheers,

Doug
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Please everyone have a look at the revised SIs that I just posted.

It turns out I will be helping a first time racer so I will see you there.

Michel
Michel,

I like the idea of not having folks standing, except for essential tasks.

Thanks,
Keith



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Posted by: Michel Jichlinski on 10/28/2020 at 7:45 PM
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That wasn't Sara, it's just the way Club Express likes to call me when I respond to by an email instead of through the forum. I think Hank ends up being Lilly for the same reason.

I was trying to be consistent with what we used to do in the frostbites, which I understood was designed to minimize the risk of MOB in cold water. So I thought we would allow people out of the cockpit for social distancing reasons but not because people want to hike. But I personally don't really care. And it doesn't appear that too many others have an opinion either.

What about people standing outside the cockpit (like to hold the boom when going wing to wing)?


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That wasn't Sara, it's just the way Club Express likes to call me when I respond to by an email instead of through the forum. I think Hank ends up being Lilly for the same reason.

I was trying to be consistent with what we used to do in the frostbites, which I understood was designed to minimize the risk of MOB in cold water. So I thought we would allow people out of the cockpit for social distancing reasons but not because people want to hike. But I personally don't really care. And it doesn't appear that too many others have an opinion either.

What about people standing outside the cockpit (like to hold the boom when going wing to wing)?

Sara,


49.2 goes on to say that if there are two lifelines, crew may position themselves outside the upper lifeline.


This is consistent with what we do week in and week out, here on Herring Bay and all over the world. Look at our weekly pics of boats racing.


Just asking that we keep doing what we do everytime we race, and not introduce new rules that will lead to confusion, personal interpretation, and possibly (heaven forbid) protests.


Thanks,

Keith

I was going by rule 49.2


Michel,


For the sake of simplicity, can we please remove the restrictions regarding crew outside the lifelines etc. and simply state that anyone out of the cockpit shall wear a pfd. Crew on the rail will likely have feet over the side so head out between the upper and lower lifelines is normal per PHRF rules...if you have lifelines. Preventing a small crew from hiking actually is a disadvantage compared with larger crews.


Thanks for your efforts.


Keith

hearing no objection, I propose to change the SI as follows, which should keep it fair with those boats electing to limit the size of their crew.

FROM: After a boat has started, crew members wearing PFD’s are only allowed out of the cockpit during a tack or a gybe to assist moving the headsail around the mast and standing rigging and skirt the headsail. Sitting on the rail is not permitted unless when doing so, feet are in the cockpit.

TO: After a boat has started, crew members wearing PFD’s are only allowed out of the cockpit to maintain social distance or to assist moving the headsail around the mast and standing rigging and skirt the headsail during a tack or a gybe. No part of crewmembers torsos shall be outside the lifelines and crewmembers shall not be standing outside the cockpit at any time except briefly to perform a necessary task.
I agree with Keith on allowing crew outside the cockpit in the Frostbites.

Cheers,
Hank

I suggest that we modify the SIs to allow crew with PFDs out of the cockpit for the Frostbite Series.


We have done a great job of keeping crew safe this year, and now we are requiring that everyone sit close together in the cockpit. Some of my crew are against this, and after thinking about it, so am I.


Thanks,

Keith

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