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I'd appreciate your advice on the starting line if it doesn't look right to
you after we set it up. There has been chatter on the Forum over the length
of the line and "guesstimates" become more difficult as the number of boats
starting increases [10-12] especially when accompanied by strong wind a
large waves. Regards Hank

Thanks a lot Hank, that's great.


And I fixed my misspelling of Blew Bayou.

Hank,

Thank you my friend.  Holla if you need help out there.

Best regards,
Keith

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Michel,
Sorry for the late addition to the thread. The crew of Blew Bayou is glad to volunteer for race committee for November 28 so Jubilee does not need to do it another time.

Let us know if we can serve as RC that day. 

Thanks,
Hank


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Michel,

Sorry for the late addition to the thread. The crew of Blew Bayou is glad to volunteer for race committee for November 28 so Jubilee does not need to do it another time.

Let us know if we can serve as RC that day.

Thanks,

Hank

And just like that, the last piece of the RC puzzle falls into place. I see no rain in the forecast, not too cold and not too windy, should be a very enjoyable day.


Thank you John and best to all Frostbite racers


Michel

I've informed Michel that Kaya will do RC duties on Sunday. I apologize for not following the forum discussions or I would have volunteered sooner.

John
s/v Kaya

Michel,

Jubilee is happy to do RC on the 28th. No worries.

I had written earlier that this would be my 4th time ... I was PRO for the Womens Regatta with some of my crew, onboard Fine Tuned.

Thanks,
Keith

BTW, regarding the length of a starting line ... its a bit like trying to figure out how much hot sauce to put in the chilli. It depends!

Before the 1st Race last week the true wind was 3 - 5 knots and the line was good.  Before the start of the 2nd Race the true wind was 13 - 15 knots ... and the line was too short. 

As I told Matt, I'm kicking myself for not moving the pin. 

I am one of those who adds a pinch of this and a slurp of that and about mmmm, that much hot sauce to the chilli. Am I cooking for 4 or 8 or 11?  Kids or adults. It depends.

 I have never used the method described in the RC Manual for setting a line. It does not take into account the wind strength, sea state, or experience level of the competitors. Just saying ...

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We are doing real progress.  This leaves 2 slots and as per my previous communication there are four, seasoned racing boats that can and should be able to figure it out between themselves: Blue Bayou, Happy Place, Kaya and Put in Bay

1) the most urgent is this Sunday, where no one has volunteered.
2) next Sunday Jubilee did sign up, but it would be the third time Jubilee does it this year and it isn't right since the others only did it once

Hopefully all this will get resolved today, it should not be down to the wire like last week.

Thank you Doug for the notes mash up and RC advice.

Michel


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We are doing real progress. This leaves 2 slots and as per my previous communication there are four, seasoned racing boats that can and should be able to figure it out between themselves: Blue Bayou, Happy Place, Kaya and Put in Bay


1) the most urgent is this Sunday, where no one has volunteered.

2) next Sunday Jubilee did sign up, but it would be the third time Jubilee does it this year and it isn't right since the others only did it once


Hopefully all this will get resolved today, it should not be down to the wire like last week.


Thank you Doug for the notes mash up and RC advice.


Michel

Doug, Thank you. You posted the announcement faster than me. Thanks for all the hints.

Due to Revolution unavailability for the last Frostbite race (Dec 5), Uncloudy Day will take over the RC duties. With our last disastrous RC assignment in mind, I would like to ask for patience and tolerance. Any advise is welcome, experienced supervisors are more than welcome to come aboard. The main problem – failure of the main timing device has been corrected and we will have 2 additional timing devices (synchronized :) ) on board. Since it is the last race of the year, we expect less boats and starting just one group also helps. It should be a good training for the next year.

All-


Uncloudy Day will be taking over RC duties on Dec 5. Thanks Beda and crew!


Race Commodore has been notified.


I pulled together a cut and paste of notes for reference (attached) for Beda and crew. Unofficial, but they are shorter to print out. Use at your own risk and confirm. Read and practice a bit at home with the script. I took from posted docs, not older docs like I did the the course book for the last race of series 1. :(


There is good documentation for RC on the "Racing" page of the HHSA site. Check it out. Review and practice a bit.


Newbies don't fear, in 2021 Bob Spann did a great job single handed performing this duty. He didn't use flags, but he did perform the announcements over the radio and horn. If you have a 1st mate, do the flags. Prep all the flags before the sequence.


If you use a portable radio, be sure to hold your antenna vertical. It is a polarity and phase issue with radio signals. Be sure your radio is charged and on high-power so the folks over in the Choptank can hear you, too :).


I recommend you get out 1 hr to 45 min to check out the breeze and figure out where you want to drop the pin, square your linen and set your anchor. If the line seems short, we can chip in and drag a bit further. Keith or David are great at helping square up the line if the breeze changes.


Side note - It always seems after the first 3 races there are fewer boats.


Oh, for timing we use the time on my hand held GPS for announcements and recording. We have one person call the incoming boat, then the recorder watches the time on the GPS and when they hear over and the gun/horn, they note and record the time. Write clean and legible for Hank.


Take some binoculars, too. Helpful for the spotter to see the sail numbers to confirm the boat approaching the line.


Oh, if there are lot of boats OCS, I think the spirit of the race is to do a general recall and try again. I am sure this will get some comments, too.


I might suggest restarting or starting additional races on the 10s vs. on the fives. It may be easier to track with the scripts .


Nobody asked, but that is my 2 cents for Tuesday.


If I messed anything up, I stand corrected.


Cheers,


Doug

s/v REVOLUTION


P.S. point the gun and horn away from all people when firing.

Give the credit to Mike. He stepped up and provided the boat when mine didn’t start. 

-Matt

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I'll revise the Race 2 results withe Uncloudy Day scored Retired.

Hank

Thank you so much Joe

If experts can help that would work but it still seems to me that the boats I listed and have been enjoying the frostbites should be able to step up and take care of this coming race.

I’m out service myself surgery recovery on my hand
Jim Murtland
Avalon

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Hi All,


I don't know if this is helpful, but Oriana is willing to be the RC boat this coming weekend. I have a work obligation, but my brother Jon and I think one other would be available. As Keith noted, we have no RC training or experience, so would need an additional volunteer (or two) on board who knew what they were doing.


Joe Davis

s/v Oriana

Apologies for not volunteering, confirming it was my first year and didn't fully understand how it works. I am out of town visiting family this weekend. I can potentially host next weekend or the weekend after if I can get assistance. This past weekend was going to tentatively be the last for the season and crew but I will try RC if I can get help.

Another note


Seasoned racers who have time can also get on other boats and teach the fine art of RC to newbies, so they learn it on their boat and understand how everything needs to be rigged. A second best is for newbies to be invited on a seasoned sailor's boat.


I would have gladly done it this year, but it is not at all advisable for me to do it while I have two screws coming out of my finger. They are coming off December 6 and I will be better than new next year.

OK


The search for volunteers for RC is indeed one of the hardest things for the Race Commodore. I believe it should not be that way, but then again the world is not always the way I think it ought to be.


First a question. to whom should the credit for yesterday's RC go? would that be Sun Rae if Mike Sanio was onboard? Matt, I let you make that decision.


Next and following weeks: Of all the ones that have been racing frostbites, Stella Maris and Oriana didn't do RC this year yet (unless Sun Rae doesn't get the credit for yesterday). I believe that both are in their first year which gives them a pass, but note that the pass is a privilege, not an obligation. I believe that all the others (except for Fine Tuned who did it 3 times): Cantata, Uncloudy day, Blue Bayou, Happy Place, Kaya and Put in Bay have done it once and only once. I would definitely give Cantata a break considering all the work that goes into scoring.


So the way I see it, of all the boats I listed, I don't think one or another stands out as being a laggard. What I believe should happen is that three should step up. One this Sunday, one instead of Jubilee next week and one instead of Revolution the last week.


First things first, who is doing it next week?

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